Tripp Lanier talks to Steven about why you don’t have to be Laird Hamilton (but really, who wouldn’t trade places with Laird for a wave or two) to get into the zone. He also gets into why you do not have to risk your life in order to feel more alive. He discusses the dark side of flow and the importance to understand the brain chemicals that underpin the flow state. Don’t miss his description of the Magyver Method.